MICHAEL FINUCANE: Michael Finucane. Ballylongford Bay Oyster Growers
MICHAEL FINUCANE PRESENTED HIS SUBMISSION AS FOLLOWS:
M. FINUCANE: Hello, my name is Michael Finucane, Chairman of
Ballylongford Bay Oyster Growing Association and, also, past Chairman
of the Irish Shellfish Association and I would like just to comment
on the submission by Johnny McElligott,
regarding the detrimental affect that this proposed LNG terminal
would have on the oysters. We have been growing oysters there for the
last 30 years and we have found that they are completely compatible
with aluminium. Money Point, Tarbert Island and also the ships that
come up and down the river, we have never found any trouble regarding
pollution or regarding background aluminium levels. They are tested
every month by the Department of Marine and we have never had any
problems or we can't see any foreseeable problem with this proposed
LNG terminal. So, as regards the oyster growers, we welcome this
the estuary. Thank you.
Thank you. You have some questions, Mr. McElligott.
J. McELLIGOTT: May I ask some questions. How many oyster growers does
he represent? And have all the oyster growers raised the same
concerns or non-concerns as him? Considering that there are going to
be 108 million gallons of water, chlorinated and discharged into the
FINUCANE: I represent what oyster growers are in the bay. We produce
60 tonnes per annum. It is tonnage we go by.
J. McELLIGOTT: Okay. So they have no environmental assessment on the
exact affects on oysters; is that correct?
FINUCANE: We did studies with BIM, and state fisheries board, and we
did seminars and we went to different management lectures on how to
handle the oysters, and we can get a print out, if you like, of the
readings of the test every
month. There are not detrimental affects whatsoever on the oysters. I
have never seen Mr. McElligott down in that bay in my life and I
can't see how he can speak for the oyster growers. I have never seen
Mr. McElligott until about two months ago anyway, so I couldn't
hardly see him there in the last 30 years.
J. McELLIGOTT: I am not speaking for the oyster growers, I just want
to know did they do a specific test or environmental assessment
impact on the oysters from this particular project?
FINUCANE: They did not on this, but they are done regularly by the
Department of the Marine every month for background aluminium
readings due to the proximity to Alkan. And we have not found any
increase in the aluminium. That's an existing facility. This facility
hasn't come at all yet, so we can't do an impact when it isn't there.
Can I just ask you do the outfalls from Money Point and Tarbert have
a similar affect?
FINUCANE: They have no detrimental affect whatsoever. In fact, if the
water temperature increases the oysters grow better. Because they are
pacific oyster and they are indigenous to the Pacific Ocean. They are
not the native oysters we are farming at all.
J. McELLIGOTT: What if the water temperature decreases?
FINUCANE: If it increases they will grow better.
J. MCELLIGOTT: And if it decreases what happens?
FINUCANE: It decreases in winter naturally.
Are your oyster beds downstream of Money Point and Tarbert?
FINUCANE: Down stream, yes. To the west of all those Facilities
Right. Okay, thank you. The other gentleman here.
FINUCANE: Michael Finucane. Just in reply by the way for the record.
I would like to reply to Dr. Downey there and his history of the
place. I can trace my family back to the 1780's, they are part of the
landbank. But there was a few omissions by Dr. Downey. There was 28
Celtic families dispossessed on that land in the plantation of
Munster. He also forgot to mention about the decimation of
Carrickfoyle Castle, the seat of the O'Connors, by General
[inaudible] on Palm Sunday, 1690. I have reason to believe it was the
INSPECTOR: Sorry, could you speak a little bit more clearly, I think
our stenographer is having difficulties.
FINUCANE: By the decimation of Carrickfoyle Castle, the seat
of the O'Connor's Kerry, in 1690, Palm Sunday, it was the first time
that gun powder was used in Ireland. General[inaudible] was one of
the Generals [inaudible]. They also sailed up Ballylongford Bay and
they sacked the Franciscan Friary at Lislaughtin and murdered and
looted the Franciscan Nuns. Three of the nuns escaped and they were
caught over Glencloosey, practically near where the actual terminal
is proposed. They were spotted by the soldiers and their ears were
cut off. And that's how the name of that area is called Glencloosey
to this day, for years. It is easy to glance over history, if you
want to go back far enough you can pick what you like out of it. But
history should be told as it happened. That's all I can say.
FINUCANE: Michael Finucane, Ballylongford Enterprise Association.
would just like to make a few comments on Ms. Sinnott's submission
regarding the estuary. If I can recollect when she canvassed our area
of North Kerry her mandate was handicapped and autistic children and
the mandate of the rest of the people at the time, MEPs, was to
create jobs and bring employment into employment black spots, but as
the previous speaker said I didn't see anything positive coming out
of Brussels -- I didn't see anything positive coming out of
Brussels from Ms. Sinnott's last four years there and I don't think
she is speaking on behalf of the people that gave her the mandate to
go to Brussels, the mandate she maintained which was handicapped and
autistic children. There are a lot of people from our area who are
very displeased with her and they should be here today to let it be
known, but that is her prerogative. If she seems to be taking the
side of vested interest on other agendas that's fine, but I would
like to remind Ms. Sinnott that North Kerry and Ballylongford and
Tarbert in general has been a black spot and that land bank was put
in place by the State with taxpayers money to create employment and
bring much needed jobs to the area. I am getting tired listening
about these troops in Shannon and American companies and all this,
only for America we would ate one another here on this side of the
country for the last 150 years since the famine because that's where
all our forebears went, most of mine did anyway and I am sure that
more people here. I would welcome it with open arms and I am living
there. A lot of them are retired at home with pensions out of the
States. 60% of our ingrowth investment in Ireland is United States
investment so people should take a harder look at things and get the
facts. As I said previously at a meeting a number of years ago, they
were talking about the Shannon Estuary and the scenery, I said the
people can't eat scenery, it comes down to that. It's the bread and
butter issues that we go by in the real world we are living in, not
in this airy-fairy world that these people seem to be living in.
Thank you, Mr. Finucane. Can we stick to the planning
SINNOTT: Just as a quick response. I think I was very clear in my
election leaflet that I would be very concerned with everything that
was of concern to my constituents if I were elected and certainly I
have a huge interest and have trojan work in the area of disability,
but that is by no means the sole job of an MEP. I would like to say
if I were thinking and acting as a politician I wouldn't be here
today, I would do the Pontius Pilate and stay away, but there is a
truth to be told about something that is dirty and dangerous,
counterproductive for jobs and destructive of the environment and
that's why I became today, whether it's popular
or not. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Sinnott.
GRIFFIN: Hi, Catriona Griffin. I just want to ask Mr. Finucane how
many jobs the local politicians who are living in the area have
brought to the land bank? Secondly, I would have to commend Kathy
Sinnott for coming here today because out of 27 local councillors in
Kerry, we had one make a brief appearance on Monday and none of the
other 26 have shown up to speak for either side. Thank you.